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This Week In Guns, April 18th, 2015
2015-04-18

by: badanov

By Chris Covert
Rantburg.com

From about ten days ago: the FBI is chucking the .40 Cal. Smith & Wesson in favor of the 9mm Parabellum. The main reason is that the .40 S&W is too hard on their guns. I didn't know they were shooting them that much! Anyway, one of the key points in this study that stood out for me was the statistic that law enforcement hits about 20 to 30 percent of the time in real time combat with bad guys.

That is terrible marksmanship, except for the fact cops have to worry about backgrounds and have to discriminate among targets among several likely factors.

Speaking of Smith & Wesson rounds, a fella on Facebook is into the business of converting Mosin-Nagant 7.62x54R rifles into .500 S&W. The link is to his website, but it doesn't open. His Facebook page is here. I left a comment asking if he just sells the barrel, and the fact is, as I read it, he just modifies existing .500 S&W barrels, chambering them, then machining the extractor cut.

I am assuming the standard Mosin-Nagant bolt can be head spaced to a .500 S&W. A large, dangerous assumption, I know, so it is worth trying to contact him about that issue as well.

According to Wikipedia, the rim diameter for the 7.62x54R cartridge is .567, while the rim diameter for the .500 S&W is .556, which is close, but sufficiently different to question the efficacy of the conversion.

Speaking with acquaintances in meatspace about the .500 S&W, it packs quite a wallop as a handgun round. A check of Armslist.com comes up with exactly zero rifles with the .500 S&W.

A Sugar Creek, Oregon Oathkeepers security operation is gearing up. Originally it appeared that Oathkeepers sent out an email saying that its request for assistance was for Oathkeepers only, and I have seen very little that would counter that request.

That said, the Patriot Information Network, the folks who are coordinating southern border patrols has sent out a request for assistance on behalf of the Oathkeepers. You can call 559-726-1300 Access 639939# for more information. The request is for 200m individuals.

This is apparently not a stand off with the Bureau of Land Management, so they say, but the BLM is involved.

Loads

Rantburg's summary for arms and ammunition:

* Switched over to tracking 7.62x51 150 grain NATO ammunition, which is more common than 145 grain, thus the huge, one-time price drop.

Prices for pistol ammunition and rifle ammunition were mixed.

Prices for used rifles and used pistols were mixed.


Pistol Ammunition

.45 Caliber, 230 grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Quality Made Cartridges, FMJ, reloads, .28 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: Quality Made Cartridges, FMJ, reloads, .29 per round (From Last Week: +.01 each After Unchanged (4Q, 2014))

.40 Caliber Smith & Wesson, 180 grain, From Last Week: -.01 each
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Freedom Munitions, Store brand, FMJ, reloads, .23 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: Freedom Munitions, Store brand, FMJ, reloads, .23 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks))

9mm Parabellum, 115 grain, From Last Week: -.01 Each
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Freedom Munitions, Store brand, FMJ, reloads, .18 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: Freedom Munitions, Store brand, FMJ, reloads, .19 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (9 Weeks))

.357 Magnum, 158 grain, From Last Week: +.01 Each After Unchanged (5 Weeks)

Cheapest, 50 rounds: SG Ammo, Geco, Bulk, FMJ, .36 per round
Cheapest Bulk: 1,000 Rounds: SG Ammo, Geco, Bulk, FMJ, .34 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (4 Weeks))

Rifle Ammunition

.223 Caliber/5.56mm 55 grain, +.01 Each
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Munire USA, Tulammo, steel cased, FMJ, .25 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: Cheaper Than Dirt!, Tulammo, steel cased, .22 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks)

.308 NATO 150 grain, From Last Week: -.04 Each *
Cheapest, 20 rounds: LAX Ammunition, Tulammo, steel cased, .41 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Cheaper Than Dirt!, Tulammo, steel cased, .40 per round (From Last Week: -.10 Each *)

7.62x39 AK 123 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (5 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Ammunition Depot, Wolf WPA, steel case, .24 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Ventura Munitions, Wolf WPA, steel case, .23 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (6 Weeks))

.22 LR 40 Grain, From Last Week: -.01 Each
Cheapest, 50 rounds (10 Box Limit): Ammomen, Remington Thunderbolt, RNL, .09 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Munire USA, Raptor, RNL, .10 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks))

Guns for Private Sale
Rifles


.223/5.56mm (AR Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $588 Last Week Avg: $600 (-) ($616 (5 Weeks), $515 (9 Weeks))
California (209, 220): Bushmaster Patrolman: $600 ($650 (13 Weeks), $425 (16 Weeks))
Texas (273, 256): Daniel Defense: $550 ($700 (6 Weeks), $350 (3 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (136, 132): Diamondback DB-15S: $600 ($700 ( 2 Weeks), $490 (17 Weeks))
Virginia (185, 192): Palmetto State Armory: $650 ($750 (6 Weeks), $500 (11 Weeks))
Florida (324, 310): Smith & Wesson M&P15 Sport: $540 ($600 (9 Weeks), $450 (25 Weeks))

.308 NATO (AR-10 Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $1,080 Last Week Avg: $1,130 (-) ($1,359 (3 Weeks), $953 (20 Weeks))
California (41, 48): Palmetto State Armory: $1,199 ($1,700 (18 Weeks), $1,000 (19 Weeks))
Texas (68, 64): Bushmaster: $1,000 ($1,500 (21 Weeks), $900 (26 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (32, 36): DPMS LR-308T: $900 ($1,500 (6 Weeks), $800 (14 Weeks))
Virginia (43, 43): DPMS: $1,500 ($1,600 (6 Weeks), $900 (22 Weeks))
Florida (53, 46): DPMS Sportical: $800 ($1,500 (22 Weeks), $750 (10 Weeks))

7.62x39mm (AK Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $520 Last Week Avg: $545 (-) ($626 (6 Weeks), $462 (20 Weeks))
California (56, 52): Yugo M70: $650 ($700 (5 Weeks), $320 (16 Weeks))
Texas (52, 45): WASR VZ 2008 Sportster : $450 ($750 (5 Weeks), $350 (23 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (63, 59): Wasr 10: $450 ($750 (11 Weeks), $450 (24 Weeks))
Virginia (59, 58): Clearview Investments AMD 65: $400 ($625 (9 Weeks), $350 (11 Weeks))
Florida (109, 111): Romak SAR-1: $650 ($650, $300 (21 Weeks))

30-30 Winchester Lever Action Average Price: $393 Last Week Avg: $377 (+) ($489 (14 Weeks), $320 (13 Weeks))
California (8, 10): Marlin 30AS: $399 ($400 (14 Weeks), $375 (16 Weeks))
Texas (12, 12): Winchester Model 94: $395 ($550 (11 Weeks), $300 (16 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (9, 10): Winchester Model 94AE: $400 ($450 (11 Weeks), $250 (16 Weeks))
Virginia (10, 8): Winchester Model 94: $320 ($425 (12 Weeks), $350 (13 Weeks))
Florida (20, 20): Marlin 336 CS: $450 ($500 (8 Weeks), $300 (13 Weeks))

Pistols

.45 caliber ACP (M1911 Pattern Semiautomatic Pistol) Average Price: $420 Last Week Avg: $420 (=) ($450 (13 Weeks), $360 (8 Weeks))
California (159, 150): Para Ordnance 1911: $500 ($600 (10 Weeks), $350 (21 Weeks))
Texas (216, 210): Llama Max 1911: $350 ($600 (20 Weeks), $350 (7 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (125, 127): Rock Island Armory: $400 ($525 (18 Weeks), $325 (20 Weeks))
Virginia (141, 154): Rock Island Armory: $550 ($550, $250 (18 Weeks))
Florida (297, 301): Llama 1911: $300 ($450 (11 Weeks), $250 (7 Weeks))

9mm (Beretta 92FS or other Semiautomatic) Average Price: $305 Last Week Avg: $320 (-) ($336 (8 Weeks), $286 (13 Weeks))
California (147, 152): Kahr CW-9: $350 ($450 (10 Weeks), $250 (15 Weeks))
Texas (223, 234): Smith & Wesson SD9VE: $250 ($355 (9 Weeks), $235 (17 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (221, 222): Ruger P95: $325 ($350 (26 Weeks), $240 (5 Weeks))
Virginia (156, 159): Smith & Wesson SD9VE: $325 ($400 (2 Weeks), $275 (22 Weeks))
Florida (396, 361): Smith & Wesson SD9VE: $275 ($375 (17 Weeks), $250 (6 Weeks))

.40 caliber S&W (Glock or other semiautomatic) Average Price: $340 Last Week Avg: $325 (+) ($345 (22 Weeks), $300 (25 Weeks))
California (63, 69): Ruger SR40: $375 ($400 (2 Weeks), $250 (15 Weeks))
Texas (99, 91): Glock 22: $325 ($425 (19 Weeks), $275 (2 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (95, 108): Ruger SR 40C: $300 ($340 (23 Weeks), $250 (10 Weeks))
Virginia (84, 87): Ruger P94: $350 ($450 (8 Weeks), $275 (14 Weeks))
Florida (136, 128): Smith & Wesson SD40VE: $350 ($400 (9 Weeks), $275 (23 Weeks))

Used Gun of the Week: (Colorado)
AK-74 Tantal rifle Chambered in .223 Winchester

Chris Covert writes for Rantburg.com. He can be reached at grurkka@gmail.com and on Twitter.




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