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This Week In Guns, June 13th, 2015
2015-06-13

by: badanov


By Chris Covert

Rantburg.com

Finally, journalism is starting to catch up with actual events in Waco.

It turns out that at least 44 shell casings ejected from firearms were recovered at Waco, of which 32 were from bikers' guns. More shots than that were likely fired from private/non-police firearms, since some of the 151 firearms seized following the shootings were probably revolvers. The other 12 ejected weapons casings recovered were from Waco Police Department guns. As I said last week, the contention that thousands or even hundreds of shots were fired in just a few seconds was unlikely. The Waco police chief said that ARs used at the scene were not on automatic, but were set to semiautomatic.

Reading a Free Republic thread about the latest information, someone pointed out that there is a lot of spinning and parsing of information. Most of the recovered firearms played no roles in the shooting, many of them having been locked in vehicles at the time of the shooting. Some of the firearms were ditched/hidden inside the Twin Peaks restaurant, and likely also played no role.

And nothing is being addressed about state and federal police said to be in the area at the time of the shooting: did any of those operatives take part in the shooting.

It should be noted that thus far, all reporters are doing now is taking dictation, not reporting.

I remarked to a friend at work how much of the activity of the press at Waco reminded me of the spoon feeding of the press done in Oklahoma by the federal government just after the Murrah Building bombing in Oklahoma City 20 years ago. No one is doing independent reporting so far.

Probably one of the worst weeks from 2nd Amendment reporting is that David Codrea was fired from his column on the Examiner after violating their terms of service. The idea I got from what he wrote about the incidents is that Examiner changed their policies and started picking on Codrea. When he protested, they "terminated" his column.

I had considered doing work for the Examiner many years ago, but I quickly came to the conclusion those folks have no idea of what they are doing. I signed up, but eventually posted nothing for them.

A proposed US State Department rule which would disallow anyone from posting technical data on firearms was advanced this week, with the proposed rule to go into effect in November. The idea behind the new rule is to deal with a lawsuit filed by Defense Distributed over their release of data on printable firearms.

And the fascists keep coming for the guns.

Loads.

Rantburg's summary for arms and ammunition:

Prices for pistol ammunition were mostly steady, while rifle ammunition prices were mixed.

Prices for used pistols were mixed, while prices for used rifles were mostly higher.

Pistol Ammunition


.45 Caliber, 230 grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (10 Weeks)

Cheapest, 50 rounds: Quality Made Cartridges, Store Brand, FMJ, reloads, .28 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 300 rounds: Homeland Munitions, Store Brand, FMJ, Reloads, .27 per round (From Last Week: -.01 Each)

.40 Caliber Smith & Wesson, 180 grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: SOWW Armory, Summit, FMJ, Reloads, .26 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Cheaper Than Dirt!, American Quality, FMJ, reloads, .24 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (5 Weeks))

9mm Parabellum, 115 grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: SG Ammo, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Cased, .19 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: Homeland Munitions, Store brand, FMJ, Reloads, .17 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks))

.357 Magnum, 158 grain, From Last Week: -.01 Each After Unchanged (2 Weeks)

Cheapest, 50 rounds: LAX Ammunition, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel cased, .28 per round
Cheapest Bulk: 1,000 Rounds: Lucky Gunner, Tulammo,FMJ, Steel cased, .30 per round (From Last Week: -.03 Each)

Rifle Ammunition

.223 Caliber/5.56mm 55 grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Today's Ammo, Wolf Polyformance, steel cased, FMJ, .24 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: LAX Ammunition, Tulammo, steel cased, .23 per round (From Last Week: +.01 Each After Unchanged (2 Weeks))

.308 NATO 150 grain, From Last Week: -.01 Each
Cheapest, 20 rounds: LAX Ammunition, Tulammo, steel cased, .42 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Cheaper Than Dirt!, Tulammo, steel cased, .40 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (9 Weeks))

7.62x39 AK 123 Grain, From Last Week: +.01 Each
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Ammo 2U, Wolf WPA, steel case, .25 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: SG Ammo, Wolf WPA, steel case, .23 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (1Q 2015))

.22 LR 40 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds (10 Box Limit): AmmoMen, Remington Thunderbolt, RNL, .09 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Ammo 2 U, Remington Thunderbolt, RNL, .09 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks))

Guns for Private Sale
Rifles


.223/5.56mm (AR Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $575 Last Week Avg: $555 (+) ($616 (11 Weeks), $515 (15 Weeks))
California (252, 250): American Tactical Imports: $600 ($650 (21 Weeks), $425 (24 Weeks))
Texas (302, 318): DPMS: $550 ($700 (14 Weeks), $350 (9 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (156, 151): Mixed Build: $500 ($700 (10 Weeks), $490 (25 Weeks))
Virginia (170, 174): Delton M4 RTK100: $650 ($750 (14 Weeks), $500 (19 Weeks))
Florida (351, 341): Mixed Build: $575 ($625 (6 Weeks), $450 (33 Weeks))

.308 NATO (AR-10 Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $987 Last Week Avg: $920 (+) ($1,359 (9 Weeks), $920 (2 Weeks))
California (47, 41): CMMG LR-308: $940 ($1,700 (24 Weeks), $900 (2 Weeks))
Texas (74, 81): Armalite AR-10: $1,295 ($1,500 (29 Weeks), $900 (34 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (32, 28): DPMS LR-308T: $800 ($1,500 (14 Weeks), $800 (22 Weeks))
Virginia (48, 48): Mixed Build: $1,000 ($1,600 (14 Weeks), $900 (30 Weeks))
Florida (66, 61): DPMS Panther: $900 ($1,500 (30 Weeks), $750 (18 Weeks))

7.62x39mm (AK Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $560 Last Week Avg: $533 (+) ($626 (11 Weeks), $462 (25 Weeks))
California (50, 48): Zastava Opap: $575 ($700 (14 Weeks), $320 (25 Weeks))
Texas (86, 82): Zastava: $600 ($750 (13 Weeks), $350 (31 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (54, 59): CAI VZ-2008: $500 ($750 (19 Weeks), $375 (4 Weeks))
Virginia (54, 51): WASR: $625 ($625 (17 Weeks), $350 (19 Weeks))
Florida (102, 102): Czech VZ2008: $500 ($650 (9 Weeks), $300 (29 Weeks))

30-30 Winchester Lever Action Average Price: $320 Last Week Avg: $360 (-) ($489 (20 Weeks), $320 (19 Weeks))
California (6, 7): Marlin 336W: $399 ($450 (5 Weeks), $350 (4 Weeks))
Texas (18, 22): Marlin 336: $300 ($550 (19 Weeks), $300 (24 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (17, 16): Marlin 336: $300 ($450 (19 Weeks), $250 (24 Weeks))
Virginia (11, 10): Western Field M72: $350 ($450 (3 Weeks), $350 (21 Weeks))
Florida (21, 19): Winchester Model 94: $250 ($500 (16 Weeks), $250 (2 Weeks))

Pistols

.45 caliber ACP (M1911 Pattern Semiautomatic Pistol) Average Price: $371 Last Week Avg: $391 (-) ($450 (18 Weeks), $360 (13 Weeks))
California (157, 166): Rock Island Armory 1911: $425 ($600 (18 Weeks), $350 (29 Weeks))
Texas (288, 295): Rock Island 1911: $400 ($600 (28 Weeks), $350 (15 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (163, 163): Llama 1911: $300 ($550 (7 Weeks), $300 (CA: $325 (26 Weeks)))
Virginia (162, 162): Tisas Zig M 1911: $430 ($550 (9 Weeks), $250 (26 Weeks))
Florida (307, 299): Llama Max: $300 ($450 (19 Weeks), $250 (15 Weeks))

9mm (Beretta 92FS or other Semiautomatic) Average Price: $295 Last Week Avg: $304 (-) ($336 (16 Weeks), $286 (21 Weeks))
California (161, 166): Smith & Wesson SD9VE: $300 ($450 (18 Weeks), $250 (23 Weeks))
Texas (236, 244): Smith & Wesson Model 59: $300 ($355 (17 Weeks), $220 (8 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (200, 198): Bersa BP9CC: $275 ($350 (34 Weeks), $240 (13 Weeks))
Virginia (201, 192): Ruger P95: $300 ($400 (10 Weeks), $275 (30 Weeks))
Florida (400, 400): Smith and Wesson SD9VE: $300 ($375 (25 Weeks), $250 (14 Weeks))

.40 caliber S&W (Glock or other semiautomatic) Average Price: $352 Last Week Avg: $326 (+) ($368 (6 Weeks), $300 (33 Weeks))
California (85, 79): Smith & Wesson: $300 ($400 (10 Weeks), $250 (23 Weeks))
Texas (117, 113): Smith & Wesson: $360 ($425 (27 Weeks), $275 (10 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (87, 82): Glock 22: $300 ($340 (31 Weeks), $250 (18 Weeks))
Virginia (76, 77): Glock 22: $450 ($450 (6 Weeks), $275 (22 Weeks))
Florida (137, 128): Smith & Wesson: $350 ($400 (16 Weeks), $260 (5 Weeks))

Used Gun of the Week: (Oregon)
Smith & Wesson Model 19-4 Chambered in .357 Magnum

Chris Covert writes for Rantburg.com. He can be reached at grurkka@gmail.com and on Twitter.




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