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By Chris Covert
Rantburg.com

A housekeeping note:

I am going to discontinue listing the Dragunovs and copies as a separate category starting next week. I will instead change it to 30-30 Winchester Lever Action.

Also, this week includes quarterly data from September 27th, 2014. If you want to look over past TWIG articles, you can see them here.

A statistical error on my part, that is the way prices are listed, will be changed as well. Under the .308 NATO category I had listed 12 weeks the price had stayed the same, when it in fact changed 11 weeks ago. So, anytime a price remains steady beyond 10 weeks, it will be listed as to the last quarter it was at that price.

** There was a significant drop in the price for AK-47s in California. I suspect it has to do with its firearms rules taking effect this quarter. It has, I think, something to do with something called a "magazine button", and the difficulty of retrofitting AKs for compliance. Anyway, if you can pass a background check, the state of California has some real bargains in that category, it seems.

Obama's Organizing for Action group claims they are winning against 2nd Amendment groups, to which they point to the grossly unconstitutional passage of I594 Universal Background Check plebiscite. Breitbart sez that over all, pro RKBA candidates win in local and state elections.

A lot of antigun pieces have appeared on a number of sympathetic news outlets of late. The checks must have been cut and are clearing as I write this.

The fella who wrote that the 2nd Amendment ought to be repealed is a peace studies teacher, whose work circulates in the left's farm league, such as Alternet and the like. Must be an easy discipline, since there is so little peace, and since they continue to deny they are trying to wage war on gun owners, a real war using hostile and well-armed enemies. A discipline like Easy Bake oven home economics.

A professor identified as Pete Dreier sez that the NRA has blood on its hands for its presumed role in the ambush of NYPD police a few weeks ago. This is an easy attack, totally free from libel concerns, since the writer, thinking he is brilliant, can attack groups. And the premise is that guns, easily available elsewhere, are finding their way into New York. His solution is universal background checks and a national gun registry.

And a national gun registry and draconian gun laws have worked so well in Canada.

A lot of bloodthirsty folks are on both sides of the issue of further gun control. All it would take now, as I have written in the past, is for one hothead on either side to send the current civil war to the next level.

Loads.

Rantburg's summary for arms and ammunition:

Prices for rifle ammunition and for pistol ammunition were steady.
Prices for used rifles and prices for used pistols were mixed.

Pistol Ammo

.45 Caliber, 230 grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (6 Weeks)
(From Q3, 2014: .29 per round, -.01 Each)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: LAX Ammunition, Tulammo, steel cased, .28 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Top Shot, Reloaded, CMJ-RN, .28 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (7 Weeks))

.40 Caliber Smith & Wesson, 180 grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks)
(From Q3, 2014: .24 per round, Unchanged)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: I.Q. Metals, Store brand, FMJ, reloads, .24 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Top Shot Ammunition, Store brand, reloads, .23 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (18 Weeks)(!!))

9mm Parabellum, 115 grain From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks)
(From Q3, 2014: .19 per round, +.01 Each)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: LAX Ammunition, Tulammo, Steel Cased, FMJ, .20 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Kinetic Munitions, Black Munitions, reloads, FMJ, .18 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (4 Weeks))

.357 Magnum, 158 grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks)
(From Q3, 2014: .38 per round, +.03 Each)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: LAX Ammunition, Fiocchi, JHP, .41 per round
Cheapest Bulk: 250 Rounds: LAX Ammunition, Store Brand, reloads, .36 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks))

Rifle Ammunition

.223 Caliber/5.56mm 55 grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (4 Weeks)
(From Q3, 2014: .21 per round, +.02 Each)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Goose Island Sales, Tulammo, steel cased, FMJ, .23 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: SG Ammo, Wolf WPA, steel cased, .22 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks))

.308 NATO 145 grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (Oct 11th, 2014)
(From Q3, 2014: .45 per round, -.04 Each)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Cheaper Than Dirt, Silver Bear, steel cased, .41 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: SG Ammo, Silver Bear, steel cased, .45 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (29 Weeks)(!!!))

7.62x39 AK 123 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (10 weeks (!))
(From Q3, 2014: .21 per round, +.01 Each)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Ammunition Depot, Wolf WPA, steel case, .22 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: SG Ammo, Brown Bear, steel case, .22 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (5 Weeks))

.22 LR 40 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (4 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Ammomen, Remington Thunderbolt, RNL, .08 per round
(From Q3, 2014: .07 per round, +.01 Each)
Cheapest Bulk, 325 rounds: South Georgia Outdoors, CCI Subsonic (?!), .08 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks))

Guns for Private Sale
Rifles

.223/5.56mm (AR Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $555 Last Week Avg: $560 (-) ($600 (11 Weeks), $526 (7 Weeks))
California (208, 233): Mixed Build: $600 ($600 (9 Weeks), $530 (6 Weeks))
Texas (287, 295): Mixed Build: $550 ($600 (11 Weeks), $450 (9 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (158, 160): DPMS: $575 ($600 (12 Weeks), $490 (3 Weeks))
Virginia (237, 249): Mixed Build: $550 (Same Gun)(4 Weeks) ($615 (9 Weeks), $550 (11 Weeks))
Florida (383, 385): LRB Arms AR 15: $500 ($599 (4 Weeks), $450 (10 Weeks))

.308 NATO (AR-10 Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $1,130 Last Week Avg: $1,080 (+) ($1,158 (5 Weeks), $953 (10 Weeks))
California (37, 42): Noreen Firearms: $1,500 ($1,700 (3 Weeks)), $1,000 (6 Weeks))
Texas (58, 51): Armalite AR-10 Carbine: $1,250 ($1,400 (7 Weeks), $900 (10 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (38, 39): Bushmaster ORC: $900 (Same Gun)(2 Weeks)($1,100 (10 Weeks), $900 (2 Weeks))
Virginia (43, 47): DPMS LR308: $900 (Same Gun)(2 Weeks) ($1,100 (6 Weeks), $900 (16 Weeks))
Florida (55, 63): Windham Weaponry: $1,100 ($1,500 (7 Weeks), $1,000 (12 Weeks))

7.62x39mm (AK Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $494 Last Week Avg: $500 (-) ($569 (6 Weeks) , $462 (8 Weeks))
California** (35, 34): WASR: $320 (!!) ($695 (6 Weeks), $320)
Texas (67, 62): Interarms: $600 ($660 (10 Weeks), $350 (8 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (57, 58):WASR: $500 ($650 (8 Weeks), $450 (9 Weeks))
Virginia (82, 72): CAI (Folding Stock): $500 ($525 (10 Weeks), $450 (6 Weeks))
Florida (125, 123): CAI C39 (922(r) Exempt): $550 ($550 (3 Weeks), $300 (6 Weeks))

7.62x54mm (Dragunov Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $1,425 Last Week Avg: $1,300 (+) ($1,975 (2 Weeks), $1,017 (10 Weeks))
California (2, 3): Romak PSL: $2,000 (Same Gun (9 Weeks)) ($2,000, $2,000)
Texas (4, 3): Romak PSL: $850 (!) ($1,950 (4 Weeks), $850 )
Pennsylvania (0, 0): None Available
Virginia (0, 0): None Available
Florida (0, 1): None Available

Pistols

.45 caliber ACP (M1911 Pattern Semiautomatic Pistol) Average Price: $450 Last Week Avg: $370 (+) ($450 (3 Weeks), $370 (2 Weeks))
California (150, 155): Rock Island Armory: $400 (Same Gun)(2 Weeks)($400 (8 Weeks), $350 (7 Weeks))
Texas (197, 205): Taurus 1911PT: $525 (Same Gun)(3 Weeks) ($600 (6 Weeks), $375 (11 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (166, 174): Norinco 1911: $525 ($525, $325 (4 Weeks)
Virginia (153, 154): Girsan 1911: $400 ($450 (6 Weeks), $250 (3 Weeks))
Florida (350, 340): Auto Ordnance: $400 ($425 (11 Weeks), $350 (12 Weeks))

9mm (Beretta 92FS or other Semiautomatic) Average Price: $286 Last Week Avg: $291 (-) ($335 (11 Weeks), $286)
California (157, 159): Smith & Wesson SD9VE: $300 (Same Gun)(2 Weeks) ($350 (8 Weeks), $300 (14 Weeks))
Texas (238, 229): Smith and Wesson SD9: $235 ($350 (13 Weeks), $235 (2 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (218, 219): Ruger P95: $295 ($350 (12 Weeks), $295 (7 Weeks))
Virginia (218, 236): Smith & Wesson Model 6904: $300 ($350 (12 Weeks), $275 (7 weeks))
Florida (399, 403): Smith & Wesson Sigma SW9VE: $300 ($375 (3 Weeks) , $270 (4 Weeks))

.40 caliber S&W (Glock or other semiautomatic) Average Price: $335 Last Week Avg: $315 (+) ($345 (8 Weeks), $300 (10 Weeks))
California (84, 90): Smith and Wesson Sigma: $300 (Same Gun (3 Weeks))($350 (12 Weeks), $275 (9 Weeks))
Texas (147, 140): Beretta PX4: $400 ($425 (6 Weeks), $300 (12 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (117, 126): Smith and Wesson M&P Shield 40: $300 ($340 (8 Weeks), $275 (6 Weeks))
Virginia (100, 99): Beretta 9000S: $350 (Same Gun)(2 Weeks) ($450 (3 Weeks), $300 (10 Weeks))
Florida (209, 209): Smith & Wesson (Unspecified Model): $325 ($375 (8 Weeks), $275 (12 Weeks))

Used Gun of the Week: (Pennsylvania)

Argentine Sistema Colt Model 1927 Chambered in .45 ACP

Chris Covert writes for Rantburg.com. He can be reached at grurkka@gmail.com


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