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By Chris Covert
Rantburg.com

The shootings in Waco last weekend appear to be the work of the police.

Originally the paid media said that the story was a fight among bikers took place inside a commercial establishment, then spilled to the outside before the lead started to fly.

The folks at Western Rifle Shooters Association have discussed the provenance of the death, and the general consensus is that the bikers were let into a kill zone set up by police before they opened fire.

Writers at Lew Rockwell have suggested that government informants set up the whole thing, that unnamed government officials were hoping for some kind of crackdown in Texas, given the Jade Helm military exercises due to begin in June.

By one account, one of the bikers discharged a rifle or a long gun of some kind at another biker, presumably before the cops weighed in, but that was the only report of a rifle used by the bikers.

One thing I have learned about conspiracy theories is that no one is as evil, as good or as competent as the elements of any one conspiracy would suggest, especially when it comes to law enforcement.

So for now, the shootings appear to be what they are: bikers gathered at a commercial location, so that the cops, including police snipers could keep a close eye, so that at the moment weapons of any kind appeared, the cops could open fire. Whether their kill list consists of four or nine, it appears the cops stopped things from getting out of hand.

How close that is to the truth, I don't know. I just know I wouldn't want to be the Barney who has to detain 100-plus big bad biker men without some kind of intense fire support.

The left again shows its zeal to kill their sworn enemy (that would be you and me). A number of "news" articles from reliably leftist publications have appeared since last Sunday decrying the treatment of "old white men" over the African American protestors at places such as Baltimore and Ferguson, Missouri. Those writers are ignoring the body count for the "old white men" in Waco at the moment, because that just doesn't fit their narrative.

From the East Coast comes the news that New York's AR registration requirement is an even bigger failure than nearby Connecticut. A gun group in New York won a civil suit which now allows them to look over what is really going on with regard to gun registration.

Since George Stephanopoulos now admits supporting the Clintons financially through donations totaling $75,000, it is only fair for me to announce I am supporting The Zelman Partizans, an offshoot of Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership, which was taken over by another group less dedicated gun rights.

My total donation is $75.

Loads.

Rantburg's summary for arms and ammunition:

Prices for pistol ammunition were steady while rifle ammunition prices were mostly steady.

Prices for used pistols were mixed while prices for used rifles were mostly higher.

Pistol Ammunition

.45 Caliber, 230 grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (7 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Quality Made Cartridges, FMJ, reloads, .28 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 300 rounds: Beck Ammunition, Unknown Brand, FMJ, .28 per round (From Last Week: -.01 Each)

.40 Caliber Smith & Wesson, 180 grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (4 Weeks)

Cheapest, 50 rounds: I.Q. Metals, Store brand, FMJ, reloads, .24 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: I.Q. Metals, Store brand, FMJ, reloads, .23 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks))

9mm Parabellum, 115 grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks)

Cheapest, 50 rounds: Ventura Munitions, Wolf Polyformance, FMJ, Steel Cased, .17 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: Blok Tactical, Kinetic Range (Store brand), FMJ, Reloads, .17 per round (From Last Week: -.01 Each)

.357 Magnum, 158 grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Cheaper Than Dirt!, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel cased, .28 per round
Cheapest Bulk: 500 Rounds: Freedom Munitions, Store Brand, New, FMJ, .33 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged)

Rifle Ammunition

.223 Caliber/5.56mm 55 grain, From Last Week: +.01 Each After Unchanged (2 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Tulammo, steel cased, FMJ, .25 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Cheaper Than Dirt!, Tulammo, steel cased, .23 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks))

.308 NATO 150 grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (4 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Cheaper Than Dirt!, Tulammo, steel cased, .43 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Cheaper Than Dirt!, Tulammo, steel cased, .40 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (6 Weeks))

7.62x39 AK 123 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (5 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Ventura Munitions, Wolf WPA, steel case, .25 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Cheaper Than Dirt!, Brown Bear, steel case, .23 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (11 Weeks))

.22 LR 40 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: AmmoFast, Aguilar, RNL, .10 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Munire USA, Raptor CI, RNL, .10 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks))

Guns for Private Sale
Rifles


.223/5.56mm (AR Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $575 Last Week Avg: $530 (+) ($616 (8 Weeks), $515 (12 Weeks))
California (229, 221): Ruger AR-556: $550 ($650 (18 Weeks), $425 (21 Weeks))
Texas (310, 303): DPMS: $550 ($700 (11 Weeks), $350 (6 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (140, 139): Bushmaster: $550 ($700 (7 Weeks), $490 (22 Weeks))
Virginia (171, 183): Palmetto State Armory: $629 ($750 (11 Weeks), $500 (16 Weeks))
Florida (338, 333): Armory Dynamics: $600 ($625 (3 Weeks), $450 (30 Weeks))

.308 NATO (AR-10 Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $958 Last Week Avg: $938 (+) ($1,359 (6 Weeks), $938 (CA: $953 (23 Weeks))
California (41, 43): Mixed Build: $940 ($1,700 (22 Weeks), $940 (2 Weeks))
Texas (81, 83): DPMS: $950 ($1,500 (26 Weeks), $900 (31 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (25, 25): DPMS LR-308T: $900 ($1,500 (11 Weeks), $800 (19 Weeks))
Virginia (45, 44): DPMS: $1,100 ($1,600 (11 Weeks), $900 (27 Weeks))
Florida (67, 59): DPMS Panther: $900 ($1,500 (27 Weeks), $750 (15 Weeks))

7.62x39mm (AK Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $554 Last Week Avg: $530 (+) ($626 (9 Weeks), $462 (23 Weeks))
California (53, 58): CAI M-70: $599 ($700 (10 Weeks), $320 (21 Weeks))
Texas (67, 67): Romak WASR: $750 ($750 (10 Weeks), $350 (28 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (60, 59): CAI VZ-2008: $375 ($750 (16 Weeks), ($375 CA: $450 (28 Weeks))
Virginia (50, 51): Romak: $550 ($625 (14 Weeks), $350 (16 Weeks))
Florida (96, 96): Romak: $500 ($650 (6 Weeks), $300 (26 Weeks))

30-30 Winchester Lever Action Average Price: $379 Last Week Avg: $400 (-) ($489 (18 Weeks), $320 (17 Weeks))
California (8, 9): Marlin 336: $350 ($450 (2 Weeks)), $350 (CA: $375 (20 Weeks))
Texas (21, 17): Marlin 336: $350 ($550 (16 Weeks), $300 (21 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (12, 11): Winchester 94AE: $350 ($450 (16 Weeks), $250 (21 Weeks))
Virginia (16, 13): Marlin 336CS: $400 ($425 (17 Weeks), $350 (18 Weeks))
Florida (17, 16): Winchester Model 94: $445 ($500 (13 Weeks), $300 (18 Weeks))

Pistols

.45 caliber ACP (M1911 Pattern Semiautomatic Pistol) Average Price: $413 Last Week Avg: $424 (-) ($450 (16 Weeks), $360 (11 Weeks))
California (158, 150): Rock Island Armory: $400 ($600 (15 Weeks), $350 (26 Weeks))
Texas (271, 272): Rock Island Armory: $450 ($600 (25 Weeks), $350 (12 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (145, 145): Regent 1911 (SS): $400 ($550 (4 Weeks), $325 (24 Weeks))
Virginia (144, 154): Girsan MC1911: $450 ($550 (6 Weeks), $250 (23 Weeks))
Florida (315, 305): American Tactical Imports: $365 ($450 (16 Weeks), $250 (12 Weeks))

9mm (Beretta 92FS or other Semiautomatic) Average Price: $310 Last Week Avg: $307 (+) ($336 (13 Weeks), $286 (18 Weeks))
California (158, 148): Beretta 92FS: $250 ($450 (15 Weeks), $250 (20 Weeks))
Texas (239, 240): EAA Tanfoglio Witness: $335 ($355 (14 Weeks), $220 (5 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (203, 198): Ruger P95DC: $315 ($350 (31 Weeks), $240 (10 Weeks))
Virginia (155, 171): Ruger SR9: $350 ($400 (7 Weeks), $275 (27 Weeks))
Florida (385, 397): Walther PPX: $300 ($375 (22 Weeks), $250 (11 Weeks))

.40 caliber S&W (Glock or other semiautomatic) Average Price: $331 Last Week Avg: $321 (+) ($368 (5 Weeks), $300 (30 Weeks))
California (73, 71): Sig Sauer SP2022: $400 ($400 (7 Weeks), $250 (20 Weeks))
Texas (106, 110): Smith & Wesson SDVE40: $375 ($425 (24 Weeks), $275 (7 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (80, 86): Smith & Wesson SD40VE: $340 ($340 (28 Weeks), $250 (15 Weeks))
Virginia (77, 79): Smith & Wesson SW40VE: $280 ($450 (13 Weeks), $275 (19 Weeks))
Florida (116, 127): Smith & Wesson SD40VE: $260 ($400 (13 Weeks), $260 (2 Weeks)))

Used Gun of the Week: (Wisconsin)
Ruger Royal PhoenixGP100 Chambered in .357 Magnum

Chris Covert writes for Rantburg.com. He can be reached at grurkka@gmail.com and on Twitter.


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