This Week In Guns, August 15th, 2015
2015-08-15
Posted by: badanov
By Chris Covert
Rantburg.com
Elsewhere on Rantburg is an op-ed by a "pro-gun, pro-constitution" individual, who spent, he claims, $100,000 of his own money to regain possession of guns he turned over to the cops during a divorce. There's his problem. He complied and is $100,000 lighter. So to compensate, he wants the government to institute controls that will guarantee the right to keep and bear arms will always be violated. So many of these types, such as this collectivist, exist: fervent believers in the right to keep and bear arms for them, under conditions they alone set out. The concept of rights and consent of the governed never enter into their calculus. Just the advocacy for the State's raw power to advance a personal agenda.
Oathkeepers are getting bad press because four individuals showed up for the 2nd Annual Ferguson Riots armed with Evil Black Rifles, set to defend property from mayhem.
I have a few beefs with Oathkeepers, but them sending armed individuals to stop looting is not one of them. My beef at the moment is that Oathkeepers, from top to bottom, believe this is a beauty contest, not an existential struggle to restore basic rights. They try to play to the press, and they are very careful about optics. They act is though they are running an election campaign, so they are oh so careful about with whom they associate.
The Bundy Ranch incident in 2014 raised awareness over how to conduct armed civil disobedience. Despite what the press says, the notion of armed individuals protesting for their rights, and bearing arms to do it, is catching on. Oathkeepers were there in Nevada, and they were public, but they did very little, as I understand it, other than to bitch and moan about everyone there who was not a high risk civilian contractor, former spec-ops, or prior service military. They had at their disposal hundreds of willing armed volunteers, and the best thing they could think to do was to piss the volunteers off so badly the Oathkeepers were forced to leave.
And their solution? Keep the armed volunteers out. Only Oathkeepers. It worked to a very limited extent in Oregon last spring. No one talks about Suger Pine Mine now, do they? How many armed individuals did Oathkeepers have in Oregon versus how many they could have had?
And now this summer in Ferguson, four, count 'em, four armed men show up at the riots. In my view Oathkeepers unwittingly buttressed the press and the left's contention that armed volunteers willing to show up to defend private property during a riot are a fringe group. I don't care how professional you are, or how much of a military bearing you present while mugging for the cameras, when the best you can come up with is four armed individuals, you are doing it wrong. You are playing into the left's narrative.
I've got $20 that says if Oathkeepers really tried, they could get 100 armed volunteers to show up with them within four hours and the press attacks would be no worse, and the area of operation would be 100 times more secure. Despite what you hear from the left, the notion that 100 people showing up en masse with the intention of stopping the looting and the mayhem associated with a riot, although as they may look ridiculous in tactical gear, is something that could shatter the notion, carefully cultivated in paid media, that fighting for your rights only means you gotta burn Old Glory. That maybe these guys with guns have a point.
Loads.
Rantburg's summary for arms and ammunition:
Prices for pistol ammunition and for rifle ammunition were unchanged.
Prices for used pistols were mostly higher, while prices for used rifles were higher across the board.
Pistol Ammunition
.45 Caliber, 230 grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (9 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Ventura Munitions, Wolf Polyformance, FMJ, steel cased, .27 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: Ammo Clearance, Leadhead Ammo, FMJ, Reloads, .27 per round (From Last week: Unchanged (4 Weeks))
.40 Caliber Smith & Wesson, 180 grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (6 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Cheaper Than Dirt!, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Cased, .24 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: LAX Ammunition, Store Brand, FMJ, Reloads, .23 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (9 Weeks))
9mm Parabellum, 115 grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (8 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Cheaper Than Dirt!, Brown Bear, FMJ, Steel Cased, .17 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: Ammo Clearance, LeadheadAmmo, FMJ, Reloads, .17 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks))
.357 Magnum, 158 grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (10 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: LAX Ammunition, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel cased, .28 per round
Cheapest Bulk: 1,000 rounds: LuckyGunner, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel cased, .27 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks))
Rifle Ammunition
.223 Caliber/5.56mm 55 grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (6 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Munire USA, Tulammo, steel cased, FMJ, .24 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: Cheaper Than Dirt!, Wolf Polyformance, steel cased, .22 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks))
.308 NATO 150 grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (6 weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: LAX Ammunition, Tulammo, steel cased, FMJ, .40 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Cheaper Than Dirt!, Tulammo, Steel Cased, FMJ, .37 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks))
7.62x39 AK 123 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (9 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Ammunition Depot, Wolf WPA, steel case, FMJ, .24 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: SG Ammo, Wolf WPA, steel case, .23 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (1Q 2015))
.22 LR 40 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds (10 Box Limit): Ammomen, Federal American Eagle, RNL, .08 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 325 rounds (2 Box Limit): Natchez Shooters Supplies, Federal Automatch, RNL, .06 per round (From Last Week: -.02 Each)
Guns for Private Sale
Rifles
.223/5.56mm (AR Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $506 Last Week Avg: $530 (+) ($616 (19 Weeks), $486 (4 Weeks))
California (286, 288): Ruger AR-5.56: $545 ($650 (30 Weeks), $425 (33 Weeks))
Texas (309, 315): Bear Creek Arsenal: $485 ($700 (24 Weeks), $350 (19 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (175, 174): American Tactical Imports: $550 ($700 (18 Weeks), $300 (6 Weeks))
Virginia (198, 200): American Tactical Imports Omni: $500 ($750 (24 Weeks), $500 (28 Weeks))
Florida (420, 398): Mixed Build: $450 ($650 (9 Weeks), $450 (42 Weeks))
.308 NATO (AR-10 Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $960 Last Week Avg: $920 (+) ($1,359 (18 Weeks), $890 (3 Weeks))
California (47, 42): Mixed Build: $999 ($1,700 (32 Weeks), $850 (2 Weeks))
Texas (68, 73): DPMS: $800 ($1,500 (38 Weeks), $800 (2 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (39, 35): DPMS LR-308T: $800 ($1,500 (24 Weeks), $800 (32 Weeks))
Virginia (51, 57): Black Rain Ordnance: $1,500 ($1,650 (8 Weeks), $900 (38 Weeks))
Florida (73, 69): Rock River LAR8 Operator: $700 ($1,500 (39 Weeks), $700 (CA: $750 (26 Weeks)))
7.62x39mm (AK Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $500 Last Week Avg: $508 (+) ($626 (20 Weeks), $450 (7 Weeks))
California (44, 45): Saiga: $600 ($700 (23 Weeks), $320 (34 Weeks))
Texas (79, 77): WASR: $550 ($750 (22 Weeks), $350 (40 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (42, 41): IO: $400 ($750 (28 Weeks), $375 (13 Weeks))
Virginia (52, 53): Yugo M70 Npap: $550 ($625 (26 Weeks), $350 (28 Weeks))
Florida (101, 96): Century GP-1975: $400 ($650 (18 Weeks), $300 (38 Weeks))
30-30 Winchester Lever Action Average Price: $402 Last Week Avg: $370(+) ($489 (28 Weeks), $296 (8 Weeks))
California (6, 8): Winchester Model 1894: $500 ($500 (CA: $450 (11 Weeks)), $180 (8 Weeks))
Texas (14, 18): Marlin 336W: $500 ($550 (27 Weeks), $300 (32 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (15, 16): Marlin 30AW: $275 ($450 (28 Weeks), $250 (33 Weeks))
Virginia (7, 10): Winchester Ranger (w/scope): $350 ($450 (12 Weeks), $350 (30 Weeks))
Florida (17, 15): Winchester Model 1894: $385 ($500 (25 Weeks), $250 (11 Weeks))
Pistols
.45 caliber ACP (M1911 Pattern Semiautomatic Pistol) Average Price: $395 Last Week Avg: $370 (+) ($450 (26 Weeks), $360 (21 Weeks))
California (193, 179): Llama: $350 ($600 (26 Weeks), $300 (4 Weeks))
Texas (253, 260): Girsan 1911: $400 ($600 (37 Weeks), $350 (24 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (137, 141): Charles Daly 1911: $350 ($550 (16 Weeks), $300 (10 Weeks))
Virginia (148, 150): Auto Ordnance (Thompson): $475 ($550 (18 Weeks), $250 (35 Weeks))
Florida (345, 346): Girsan: $400 ($475 (9 Weeks), $250 (24 Weeks))
9mm (Beretta 92FS or other Semiautomatic) Average Price: $280 Last Week Avg: $289 (-) ($336 (23 Weeks), $274 (3 Weeks))
California (163, 169): Beretta: $250 ($450 (26 Weeks), $250 (31 Weeks))
Texas (271, 266): Smith & Wesson SD9VE: $289 ($355 (25 Weeks), $220 (17 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (219, 224): Ruger P95: $300 ($350 (43 Weeks), $200 (5 Weeks))
Virginia (204, 203): Smith & Wesson Sigma: $295 ($400 (19 Weeks), $250 (6 Weeks))
Florida (430, 414): Ruger P89 : $265 ($375 (35 Weeks), $230 (5 Weeks))
.40 caliber S&W (Glock or other semiautomatic) Average Price: $361 Last Week Avg: $327 (+) ($368 (15 Weeks), $300 (41 Weeks))
California (93, 95): Glock 23: $400 ($400 (19 Weeks), $250 (32 Weeks))
Texas (129, 126): Ruger P94: $380 ($425 (36 Weeks), $275 (18 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (84, 76): Smith & Wesson SD40VE: $250 ($350 (7 Weeks), $250 (27 Weeks)) (Med: $300(- $50), Avg: $283 (- $33))
Virginia (78, 72): Glock 22: $425 ($450 (15 Weeks), $275 (31 Weeks))
Florida (146, 151): Smith & Wesson SD40VE: $350 ($400 (25 Weeks), $260 (13 Weeks))
Used Gun of the Week: (California)
Masterpiece Arms Mini Mac 11 Chambered in 9mm Parabellum
Chris Covert writes for Rantburg.com. He can be reached at grurkka@gmail.com and on Twitter
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